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David Muccigrosso's avatar

>> But what I mean by definitions is that the Japanese approach is so utterly different from the American, that you almost couldn’t call them both the same thing. And likewise, when Ryan, or zoning scholar Nolan Gray in his book, say there should be no zoning, they don’t mean there should be no rules about building things at all. I wonder how much of a difference this makes given that the actual results of either approach would probably overlap.

In a way, this kinda replicates the Defund argument, though in a less toxic manner.

I think it speaks to a core dilemma of advocating for *replacing* a policy vs. instituting one — greenfield vs. grayfield, if you will.

When policy is greenfield, you can just say what you want.

When a bad grayfield policy is already in place, though, you have to be unequivocal about the fact that it’s BAD and shouldn’t be there, AND you have to say what you want instead.

It’s a kind of reversal of Mike Duncan’s “Entropy Of Victory” effect: Instead of making it difficult to hold the coalition together AFTER an agreement to defeat some common enemy, grayfield policy makes it difficult to assemble the coalition in the first place, because no one can agree on the balance of rhetoric on “abolish vs. replace” nor on “what do we replace it with”.

I think that as a movement, we should spend less time hammering each other on our imprecisions (not that I think you’re being egregious here) and more time just sharing ideas so that we can solidify our notions of what the replacement can look like.

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Dustin Pieper's avatar

It's really curious to wonder how that Georgist world would look. I have a lot of high hopes for it.

As a side note, zoning would actually be an even bigger problem under a Land Value Tax system, since that would drastically affect the value of land due to limiting what can be built there. Doing so, you can cause all sorts of weird problems, including valuation difficulties and land abandonment. In a lot of ways, Georgism and zoning are kinda incompatible (beyond just nuisance mitigation).

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