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Alex Pline's avatar

I'm not a fan of open containers per se (ie walking around with open drinks), but I certainly endorse anything that improves street life. That said, I think it's important to dig deeper than a particular use that is en vogue (micro breweries and distilleries) to understand why they promote revitalization. Andres Duany said it best at a talk in Detroit on Lean Urbanism (just the nugget here): "...when government wasn't watching..." (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwpi85QuGRc&t=5314s, I highly recommend watching the entire video if you never have as there are some real gems here). The reason micro breweries are en vogue is only partially related to alcohol and the sociability around it. The reason they have become popular is entrepreneurs have sought out spaces that are cheap and have little regulation in areas that are conducive to people (downtrodden prewar, mixed use areas). and are not on most NIMBY radar. That's the fundamental reason. Putting a "Gordon Biersch" wall street financed, chain microbrewery (an oxymoron for sure) in a "town center" top down development is really just capitalizing on that trend and does not really add anything more than any other food use there.

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Peter H.'s avatar

This hit home--while we're child free, we have multiple couple friends in their 30s and 40s with children who love sipping a craft beverage in a setting like this. We even know a few younger empty nesters who enjoy this sort of environment. Yet there's a particular pearl-clutching branch of NIMBYism that portrays any alcohol-forward business as the Mos Isley Cantina, and killed more than a few proposals for things like tap rooms and wine bars even in our dark blue urban neighborhood.

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